Wednesday, June 15, 2005

Giving Iraqi Oil To Israel?

U.S. checking possibility of pumping oil from northern Iraq to Haifa, via Jordan

The United States has asked Israel to check the possibility of pumping oil from Iraq to the oil refineries in Haifa. The request came in a telegram last week from a senior Pentagon official to a top Foreign Ministry official in Jerusalem.

The Prime Minister's Office, which views the pipeline to Haifa as a "bonus" the U.S. could give to Israel in return for its unequivocal support for the American-led campaign in Iraq, had asked the Americans for the official telegram.

Should anybody be surprised?


Apparently none of the bone heads that came up with this idea are thinking about the repercussions. With the animosity that most Arab states have for Israel, how damning will it look for the US to go out of their way to give Israel any of Iraq's oil?

No matter why they have broached this issue, they will cause more hatred for the US...any way you slice it...


At 9:57 AM, Blogger Osama - Iraqi said...

Do you know why the west looks at us like retards?
The answer is simple; we still believe that the Pentagon uses a telegram!

Keep living like this believing in conspiracy theory’s, I hope it wont be too late when you’ll start seeing the truth, maybe never!

At 11:39 AM, Blogger Myst said...

The world looks at us poorly, for one, because people such as yourself have no idea of what is going on around you and you would gladly give up your right to think independenly in order to be led by a group of people who do not give a rat's ass about you...their only interest is for themselves.

To gladly burst your bubble, I am not a conspiracy theorist...I have provided documented statements. There is sufficient evidence that those such as yourself are easily lied to and manipulated while people like me are not.

If your views had credence, why are you ashamed to say who you are? What is the point of hiding?

I do not have to hide but a sheep will always run and hide when threatened.

When you grow up maybe you'll figure it out...

At 12:31 PM, Blogger madtom said...

What got me was that the report talked about:

"the port of Haifa is an attractive destination for Iraqi oil'
"the flow of Iraqi oil via Jordan and Israel.""

And your comment:
"give Israel any of Iraq's oil?"

What I would like to know is how do you reconcile those statements?

At 2:43 PM, Blogger Myst said...

In the article, it was stated that it was like a bonus, or gift, if you will, for their support of us in Iraq.

If we ship Iraqi oil to Israel we bring an extra financial boon to them...and yes that is a gift that we would be GIVING them. I posed it as a question, nothing more.

My issue here is to cause people to think. With the severe animosity that most Arab states have for Israel and having them already incensed at us for our double standard policies and relations with Israel, how much more hatred will we inspire when the Arab world realizes that Israel will be making a profit from Iraq's oil?

Most think the only reason we invaded was for the oil. Can you not see this as something that would cause more anger against us?

At 8:46 PM, Blogger madtom said...

"If we ship Iraqi oil to Israel we bring an extra financial boon to them..."

By them you must mean the investors that would pay for the pipeline, and the people that work the system. Not all of which would be Israelis

Are you saying that no other Arab state dose business with Israel? If any do, do you think that the Israelis make profits from those deals? Or would Iraq be completely by itself should this deal move forward?

And are you saying that Israel would need to be given "something" to secure it's support of the US?

"Most think the only reason we invaded was for the oil. Can you not see this as something that would cause more anger against us?"

Only in the margins, and with those folk nothing we do will ever suffice.

At 8:54 AM, Blogger Myst said...

At present we ship through Turkey, where there has been attacks and therefore the pipeline is damaged. It is closer and does not carry the possibility of sparking new outrage.
According the the article about a possible Israeli pipeline, WE would be paying for the pipeline.
I ask you this...would it not be easier, less expensive for us and take less chances on creating more anger amongst Arab states if we just helped to fix Turkey's pipeline instead of trying to build a brand new one through Jordon?
The gov't. in Jordon was not "for" the invasion of Iraq but they allowed us to use part of their territory when necessary. The odds of them willingly saying a pipeline to Israel is slim because they carry some of the same animosity toward Israel. If we force the issue with Jordan because we have funded them for the past 2 years, we not only create more harsh feelings toward us but also would be embarking on a very expensive project that would become a huge target for those who do not like us in the first place.
It makes no sense unless it is simply for the benefit of Israel.

At 9:13 PM, Blogger madtom said...

Myst Jordan is one of the US's closes Arab allies. And the report said that they would receive a fee for the flow over their land.
You said We were paying for it, Who is we, you must mean US multinational oil companies, maybe with US guarantees for funding, but the stockholders of those oil companies will in fact own the line. Those very stockholders also want a return on their investment so they will be looking for efficiencies that will maximize their profits. Now the pipe to Turkey I think I read was old and only 8 inches in diameter, while the proposed pipe would be like 24 in. Or something to that effect, that's at least 3 times the oil. Will Turkey have the facilities to handle that much oil? I doubt it. I am almost sure that the port in Haifa will already have the facilities to handle and process, and I think that from there oil can flow to the rest of the world efficiently, thus maximizing profits for the stockholders.


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